PM: How do you
look at the current developments in Nepal?
Azad: We, in
India, have been watching the ongoing developments in Nepal with great interest.
The militant mass agitation by the people of Nepal against the reactionary,
autocratic regime of King Gyanendra in April, in the backdrop of the powerful
armed struggle, was indeed historic. The people of Nepal had inscribed a
glorious chapter in the annals of Nepal by forcing the fascist King to
relinquish his adamant stand and to concede power to the parliament.
Particularly the one million strong mobilization in Katmandu in June and the
lakhs mobilized in the districts indicates the growing influence of the Maoists
in the country. Their influence to be encompassing even the urban areas. Our
Party hails the historic struggle of the people of Nepal for democracy and a
better society. However, the revolutionaries in India hope that the struggle in
Nepal will go on until the overthrow of the King along with the so called
parliament and capture of power by the revolutionary and democratic forces. We
hope that the Maoists will be able to maintain their initiative to direct the
ongoing political developments. They would need to remain alert
in their alliance with the seven party alliance which wants to strike a
compromise with the King and betray the aspirations of the people.
PM: How
do you view the tactics of the CPN(Maoist) in joining the interim government and
promising to abide by the verdict of the constituent assembly?
Azad: The
situation in Nepal and the World is complex. Due to the weakness in the
international communist movement we see many a people’s war bogged down in a
struggle for survival for decades. In this situation it is no doubt that the
Nepalese party and people have made historic advances. But we feel there is need
for caution with the present tactics. We think that Maoists forming a government
jointly with the comprador bourgeois-feudal parties such as the reactionary
Nepali Congress, revisionist CPN-UML and the other parties of the ruling classes
will not really work out as they represent two diametrically opposed class
interests. It is a wrong interpretation on the question of the state in Nepal to
expect a possibility of a peaceful transition from the CA to the NDR. One may
bring some reforms from above and satisfy certain deprived sections of the
people but it will never solve the basic problems of the people as you cannot
smash feudalism and throw out imperialism from the soil of Nepal by utilizing
the old state whatever embellishments one might do to give it a refurbished
image. Nothing short of a revolutionary upheaval of the masses can achieve the
above objective. No doubt given the huge mass
mobilizations throughout the country and the efforts to create an even wider
upsurge are positive preparations to take the revolution forward, but some of
the statements in the interviews tend to give the impression that the
CPN(Maoists) are giving over-emphasis to the possibility of advancing the
movement through the Constituent Assembly and in alliance with the 7-parties.
This can have dangerous implications.
The present emphasis
of the CPN(Maoist) needs to be seen with caution particularly after they had
brilliantly built up their people’s army of 25,000, their Base Areas, the UF and
their new Organs of Power, and had stated that they were in the phase of the
strategic offensive to seize power. In the process they effectively defeated all
efforts of the police and RNA to crush them, maintaining the military and
political initiative. But now there is no reference even to the strategic
offensive and how it is to advance. They ofcourse do refer to this being a
February revolution and that preparations must go on for the October revolution,
but we are not aware this later fits into their strategic offensive plan.
PM: And what
about the dissolution of the revolutionary organs of power and merging of the
two armies?
Azad: These
organs are the product of protracted people’s war against the old state and they
stand out as shining examples of people’s democratic dictatorship at the local
level brilliantly built by the CPN(Maoist) party. The immediate task and the
tactics should serve to strengthen these organs and
mould them into organs of uprising like the Soviets in revolutionary Russia and
China. While consolidating these organs of power we need to strive to mobilize
the masses in a big way into uprisings and strive to capture the cities leading
to the final seizure of power at the opportune moment. In fact in the concrete
situation in Nepal today the Maoists have really only two revolutionary options.
Either they must intensify the mass upsurge, evolve the organizational forms of
political power suitable for seizing political power at the national/all Nepal
level or if that is not possible owing to an unfavourable balance of class
forces the existing base areas should be consolidated and strengthened and steps
taken to complete the democratic tasks and advance towards in the direction of
the socialist tasks. It is possible that in this process two Nepals will emerge
– a reactionary one based in Kathmandu and few cities and a revolutionary Nepal
based in the countryside.
As regards merging
the army within a reconstituted state army, it is even more dangerous. Mao said
that without a people’s army the people have nothing. The army is one of the
main instruments of class rule. How can two diametrically opposed classes have a
single army? By merging the people’s army with the reactionary army of the
ruling classes (until now the faithful servant of the King) the people will
become defenceless in case of a reactionary armed offensive by the enemy. We
have experiences of several countries where the toiling masses suffered heavily
due to the wrong line of the Communist party. In
Indonesia we know of the cruel massacres of communists and their sympathizers
carried out by the ruling classes due to the line of hobnobbing with the
reactionary ruling classes whom they considered as nationalist and democratic
forces. We also have before us the examples of Chile, Nicaragua and several
other countries. One cannot rule out the possibility of the reactionary ruling
classes carrying out a coup and reestablishing their monopoly over political
power at an opportune moment when the revolutionary forces have been effectively
disarmed or weakened. This has been the experience in several countries
following the 2nd World War i.e France, Greece etc. But, of course, if the
Maoists do not pose a threat to the interests of imperialism and the comprador
bureaucratic bourgeois (CBB) and they get accommodated and incorporated into the
system then they too would be received with warmth by the ruling classes. The
invitation to the UN to supervise the cease fire and monitor the demobilization
of the people’s armed forces is also dangerous. The UN is essentially an
instrument of imperialism and particularly American imperialism. It is bound to
work in the interests of the reactionary ruling classes of Nepal and
imperialism. Overall, the decision of the CPN(Maoist) to dissolve the
revolutionary people’s governments in the countryside and to merge the PLA with
the reactionary army will unfold an irreversible process of losing all the
revolutionary gains achieved till now.
PM: The
various parliamentary parties in India, not to speak of the Left parties like
the CPI and CPI(M), have been hailing the line of participation in the interim
government and parliamentary democracy taken by the Nepali Maoists and say that
it will have a positive impact on the Maoist movement in India. How does your
Party assess its impact?
Azad: It is the
wishful subjective thinking of these parties in India that the develop-ments in
Nepal will have a "positive" (what they mean by positive is the Maoists shun-ning
armed struggle and joining the so-called mainstream of parliamentary politics)
impact on the Maoist movement in our country. Anyone who is familiar with the
history of the Maoist movement in India, with the numerous ups and downs it had
gone through in the past four decades after Naxalbari, knows how resilient our
movement is. Even when confronted with great difficulties and odds against the
revolutionaries, the genuine Maoists in India never vacillated or drifted from
their line of new democratic revolution and achieving it through the line of
protracted people’s war. They had not only rejected the parliamentary path but
also fought against the parties who wanted to participate in elections in the
name of utilizing it as a tactic. Of course, there are some pseudo revolutionary
parties, like the CPI(ML)-Liberation which had degenerated into parliamentary
parties but these stand exposed before the people as revisionist parties in the
guise of MLM.
No wonder, the
various ruling class parties and the so-called left parties in India are elated
at the change of stance by the CPN(Maoist) led by comrade Prachanda. They are
naturally hailing the line taken by the CPN(Maoist) and are calling upon the
Maoists in India to realize the futility of armed struggle and to follow the
Maoists of Nepal by participating in the parliamen-tary pig-sty in India. As
bitter enemies and opponents of revolution all
these parties have been in the forefront in suppressing the ongoing people’s war
in India. The decision of the CPN(Maoist) to participate in the government along
with the reaction-ary parties, declaring their commitment to the so-called rule
of law and the future constitution, and to become actors in the ensuing game of
parliamentary elections following the elections to the constituent assembly has
come as a breather for the ruling class parties in Nepal and the parliamentary
system of India.
In fact, in his
interview with The Hindu last February, comrade Prachanda himself hinted
at the "positive" impact that his line of multiparty democracy will have
on the Maoist movement in India. It must have come as a great relief for the
Indian ruling classes to hear comrade Prachanda speak of his Party’s commitment
to multiparty democracy and the message he wants to give to the Naxalite
movement in India by successfully establishing multiparty democracy in
Nepal.
When asked what he
would say if he were to meet the Indian Prime Minister Man-mohan Singh, comrade
Prachanda said:
"We are fighting
for genuine multiparty democracy but they are imprisoned there, in Patna,
Siliguri, Chennai. If you release them all, a message will go out. And if you
feel the Naxalite movement in India is a problem for you, we feel we are trying
to deal with the problems in Nepal in a new way, so if you release our comrades
and we are successful in establishing multi-party democracy in Nepal, this will
be a very big message for the Naxalite move-ment in India. In other words, the
ground will be readied for them to think in a new political way. Words are not
enough; we need to validate what we are saying by establishing that democracy."
It is really a matter
of grave concern that comrade Prachanda, instead of demanding the expansionist
Indian ruling classes to stop all interference and meddling in Nepal’s internal
affairs, only talked of how their tactics would bring about a change in the
outlook of the Maoists in India. Needless to say, these remarks will not only be
deeply resented by the revolutionary masses of our country who have seen the
wretched system of parliamentary democracy in India but will also be proved
totally wrong through their revolutionary practice.
PM: The CPM
and one of its top leaders, Sitaram Yechuri, was focused as a messiah from
India to play a role between the Maoists and SPA. After returning back to India
he and his party advised the Indian Maoists to follow the line of the CPN(Maoist).
How do you explain this when they seem hostile to the Maoists here? Apart from
this Yechury told the press that the Indian Maoists have planned to kill him and
the secret regarding this decision was informed to him by the Nepali Maoists.
What is your comment please?
The CPM is a party of
the Indian ruling classes, representing the interests of imperialism, feudalism
and the CBB in India. Their primary task seemed to be to bring the Nepalese
Maoists into the parliamen-tary ‘mainstream’ which they also keep preaching to
us in India. When we do not accede they have used the worst forms of state
terror against us as in West Bengal. There aim is the same in both countries —
to pacify the Maoists in India with bullets and do the same with the Nepalese
Maoists with sugar-coated bullets. Yechuri and the CPM in effect played a more
affective role for the Indian ruling classes when the Congress was fumbling with
the Karan Singh fiasco. But when he overdid his ‘diplomacy’ and was sidelined,
he cooked up the conspiracy theory of the Maoists in India planning to kill him
to regain some credibility and try and sow seeds of mistrust between the two
Maoist parties. A true Chanakya!!
PM: Why are you
opposed to the tactic of multiparty democracy as proposed by the CPN(Maoist)?
Azad: Firstly, we
are greatly perturbed by the proposal put forth by comrade Prachanda in his
various interviews that his party was committed to multiparty democracy which
will be practiced not after the revolutionary seizure of power by the
proletariat but within the semi-colonial semi-feudal society. The 2003 Plenum
document was quite vague regarding CPN(Maoist)’s concept of multiparty democracy
or political competition, i.e., whether it is applicable after the seizure of
power by the revolutionary party or prior to seizure itself. It only says it is
possible to organize political competition within the constitutional limits of
the anti-feudal and anti-imperialist democratic state. However, the statements,
interviews and documents released after the 12-point Delhi Agreement between the
CPN(Maoist) and the Seven Party Alliance in November 2005 all point to the need
for competition within the existing system after the Constituent Assembly is
elected.
There is also
confusion regarding the class character of the Parties with whom such political
competition has to be conducted. While the 2003 document clearly stated that
these forces will be anti-feudal and anti-imperialist in character, the post
November 2005 documents and interviews of CPN(MAOIST) provide scope for such
competition with the constituents of SPA who are basically comprador
bourgeois-feudal in their character in spite of their role against monarchy, or,
more specifically, against King Gyanendra’s autocratic rule.
In fact, in the same
document entitled "Present situation and our tasks", presented by comrade
Prachanda and adopted by the Central Committee Meeting of the CPN (Maoist) in
May 2003, it correctly described the nature of the parliamentary parties in
Nepal in the following words—
"In form it may
appear as a triangular struggle involving monarchy, parliamen-tary forces and
revolutionary forces, but in essence and if one looks from a class point of
view, the struggle involving only two forces (reactionary and democratic forces)
are seen. It has been practically proved that the differences between the
autocratic monarchical and parliamen-tary groups are nothing other than that of
share of power within the old state. It has been time and again proved in
Nepal that monarchy in the name of nationalism (fake) and parliamentary forces
in the name of democracy (fake) want to occupy the seat of power and betray the
nation and the people on identical class basis.
"What we have been
saying from a class and theoretical point of view and what has become all the
more exposed in the present cease-fire and negotiation process is that it is the
clash of interests between different international reactionary centers which is
behind the mutual recriminations and contradictions between different
reactionary groups in Nepal. As the royal army and the palace elements are
being manipulated and protected by western imperialism, particularly American
imperialism, and the main parliamentary forces by the Indian rulers who seek
special hegemony in South Asia, they are having a continuous tug of war between
them. Hence the whole Party should be clear that, in the background of political
development particularly after the palace massacre, the idea of seeing either
the monarchical or the parliamentary forces of Nepal as more democratic or more
nationalistic than the other, will be specially harmful and wrong. It has
become all the more clear in the present day Nepal that we can never have any
ideological and political relationship with either monarchical or parliamentary
groups except to manage contradictions in a particular situation."
While the above
analysis of the class character of the parliamentary parties, their fake
democracy and loyalty to various imperialist powers, is basically correct, it is
indeed very unfortunate that the CPN(Maoist) has not adhered firmly to that
analysis from a strategic and class perspec-tive. It is one thing to make
necessary adjustments, understandings and tactical unity with these
parliamentary forces and even with a section of the imperialists against the
main enemy when conditions for such alliances become ripe. But to create
illusions on the character of these parties or overlook their links with
imperialists and Indian expansionists will do great harm to the revolution in
the long run.
Moreover, we find
that comrade Prachanda and the CPN(Maoist) had turned the tactics to the level
of strategy and path of the world revolution in the 21st century. Thus, in his
interview to The Hindu comrade Prachanda stressed that the Maoists’
commitment to multi-party democracy is not tactical but the result of a lengthy
ideological debate within the party over three years. He said: "our
decision on multi-party democracy is a strategically, theoretically developed
position and we are telling the parlia-mentary parties that we are ready to have
peaceful competition with you all."
The CPN(Maoist)
leader directly assured the comprador bourgeois-feudal parliamen-tary parties
that his Party is ready to have peaceful competition with all of them. And by
describing this decision on multiparty democracy as a strategically,
theoretically developed position comrade Prachanda has brought a dangerous
thesis to the fore—the thesis of peaceful coexistence with the ruling class
parties instead of overthrowing them through revolution; peaceful competition
with all other parliamentary parties, including the ruling class parties that
are stooges of imperialism or foreign reaction, in a so-called parliamen-tary
elections; abandoning the objective of building socialism for an indefinite
period; and opening the doors wide for the feudal-comprador reactionaries to
come to power by utilizing the backwardness of the masses and the massive
backing from domestic and foreign reactionaries or the comprador bureaucratic
bourgeois and feudal and petty bourgeois forces to hijack the entire course of
development of the society from the socialist direction to maintaining the
existing system (even if in a new form) in the name of democracy and
nationalism. Whatever may be our good intentions for building a more democratic
system, the laws governing class struggle will not permit of such a system.
History has proved this time and again from the days of the Paris Commune right
up till the earlier revolutions in Asia, Africa and Latin America.
PM: Then are you in
favour of multiparty democracy at least after the seizure of power? If not what
is the form of government you envisage after the revolution?
Azad: The Marxist-Leninist-Maoist
understanding regarding the form of government that will be best suited for the
proletariat is the Commune or the Soviet or the Revolutionary Council that can
best serve the proletariat and the vast majority of the masses as they act not
as talking shops and mere legislative bodies but as both legislative and
executive bodies. The representatives to these bodies are elected and are
subject to recall any time the people feel they do not serve their interests. If
we look at the very process of the protracted people’s war it entails the
setting up democratic power in the Base Areas of all anti-imperialist and
anti-feudal forces UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PROLETARIAT elected democratically at
gram sabhas with the right to remove them also by the gram sabha. Here there is
a close interaction between the power structures and the will of the people and
therefore truly democratic. Once power is seized at the all-India level, till
the transformation to the socialist stage all genuinely anti-imperialist and
anti-feudal parties will be part of the new power, and the transition to
socialism can only take place through continuing the class struggle
under the dictatorship of the proletariat. This does not deny democracy for the
masses at large but, as Lenin said, petty production generates a bourgeoisie
daily, hourly and these elements will find their representative at all realms of
state power, including the Party. Can anyone think
of a better form of government and better form of exercising democracy in the
real sense of the term?
"To decide once every
few years which members of the ruling class is to repress and crush the people
through parliament—this is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarism, not
only in parliamentary- constitutional monarchies, but also in the most
democratic republics", said Lenin.
This was said by
Lenin over a century back. Since then, particularly since World War II, the
parliament and its related institutions have become even more corrupt and rotten
to the core.
A good example of how
the new power was built was the Paris Commune. The concepts practiced there were
further worked out in the Soviets of the USSR, the communes in China and the
experiments of the GPCR and is being sought to be practiced in the Base Areas
being set up by the Maoists in different parts of the world.
Comrade Lenin also
explained very lucidly how the Parliament functions even in the most democratic
of the republics and, contrasting it to the Commune, showed how the Communes (or
the Soviets in Russia and Revolutionary Councils in China) are the most suitable
forms of government for the proletariat and the toiling masses.
"The parliamentary
bourgeois republic hampers and stifles the independent political life of the
masses, their direct participation in the democratic
organisation of the life of the state from the bottom up. The opposite is the
case with the Soviets.
"The way out of
parliamentarism is not, of course, the abolition of representative institutions
and the elective principle, but the conversion of the representative
institutions from talking shops into "working" bodies. "The Commune was to be a
working, not a parliamentary body, executive and legislative at the same time."
"The Commune
substitutes for the venal and rotten parliamentarism of bourgeois society
institutions in which freedom of opinion and discussion does not degenerate into
deception, for the parliamentarians themselves have to work, have to execute
their own laws, have themselves to test the results achieved in reality, and to
account directly to their constituents. …. We cannot imagine democracy, even
proletarian democracy, without representative institutions, but we can and must
imagine democracy without parliamentarism, if criticism of bourgeois society is
not mere words for us, if the desire to overthrow the rule of the bourgeoisie is
our earnest and sincere desire, and not a mere "election" cry for catching
workers’ votes, as it is with the Mensheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries,…"
PM: And how do
you ensure political competition with other parties? The CPN(Maoist) claims that
it is only by organizing political competition and institutionalizing the right
of the masses to install an alternative revolutionary party in power that
counter-revolution can be effectively checked.
Azad: It is,
indeed, surprising that the CPN(Maoist) should arrive at such a conclusion even
after the proletariat is equipped with rich and varied experiences on the period
of transition from capitalism to socialism, after it is armed with such an
appropriate form, method and weapon as the cultural revolution and is in
possession of a wealth of writings by our teachers—Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin
and Mao—and by several Marxist writers on the subject of checking the
degeneration of the Party, Army and the State; preventing the restoration of
capitalism; and building a new type of state and society. To think that
continuous proletarianization and revolutionization of the Communist Party can
be ensured and that counter-revolution can be effectively checked by organizing
so-called political competition or by institutionalizing the right of the masses
to install an alternative revolutionary party or leadership on the state means
falling into the trap of bourgeois formalism and under-mining the real task of
mobilizing the masses extensively to wage bitter class struggle against the old
reactionary defeated classes and the new bourgeois class developing within the
Party, Army and the Administration. It is difficult
to grasp how alternative revolutionary parties can exist- especially since the
communist parties have always understood that different political lines
represented either a proletarian outlook or a bourgeois outlook.
The crucial point
lies not in ensuring the right of the masses to replace one Party by
another through elections, which is anyway the norm in any bourgeois republic or
bureaucrat bourgeois-feudal republic, but ensuring their active and creative
involvement in supervising the Party and the state, in checking the emergence of
a new bureaucratic class, and themselves taking part in the administration of
the state and society and in the entire process of revolutionary transformation.
And it will be the foremost task of the Party to organize and lead the masses in
checking counter-revolution and bringing about the revolutionary transformation
in all spheres through continuing revolution under the dictatorship of the
proletariat. And this is the most important lesson handed down to us by the
entire historical experience of the world revolution, particularly by the GPCR.
Moreover, is it
possible for the Party of the proletariat to prevent the comeback of the
defeated classes to power and check counter-revolution peacefully
or by a coup by providing such an opportunity to them to compete in a
"democratic" manner? Would the Bolshevik Party have won the elections in Russia
after the revolution had it organized such political competition given its
near-total absence in the vast backward countryside where the most reactionary
ideas ruled the roost? In fact, the Bolshevik Party had to even dissolve the
constituent assembly immediately after it captured power despite the fact that
it was only a minority in it as the constituent assembly acted as an instrument
of the reactionaries and became an obstacle for carrying out revolutionary
reforms and for exercising proletarian dictatorship as in the Soviets. It is not
just the case of Russia, in many countries, particularly in semi-colonial
semi-feudal countries, where petty commodity production and peasant economy
predominate, the feudal ideology, culture, customs and the force of habit among
the majority of the population will make it possible for other non-proletarian
and even reactionary parties under the anti-feudal anti-imperialist cloak to
come to power rela-tively easily. Hence it will not be surprising if we find
that the idealist and subjective proposal of the CPN(Maoist), though made with
good intentions, ultimately becomes a convenient tool in the hands of the
capitalist-roaders to seize power.
As regards political
competition with other parties, we have the experience of China where several
democratic parties such as the Democratic League, Peasants and Workers’ Party
and others competed with the CPC and contested in elections to the various
organs of power. Although these existed for almost a decade after the revolution
the people rejected them when they refused to support socialism and tried to
take China along the capitalist road. Political competition was encouraged in
China, not in the form of participation in Western-type bourgeois parliamentary
elections but in the elections to various bodies. Democratic parties and
organiza-tions belonging to the four classes that comprised the motive forces of
revolution were to take part in the elections to the various bodies.
The CPC had strived
to unite all the anti-feudal anti-imperialist parties and forces during the new
democratic revolution and also after the seizure of power and establishment of
people’s democracy or the people’s democratic
dictatorship.
In his article On
the correct handling of contradictions among the people, in 1957, Mao
explained the policy of the CPC towards other political parties after the
capture of power thus:
"It is the desire
as well as the policy of the Communist Party to exist side by side with the
democratic parties for a long time to come. But whether the democratic parties
can long remain in existence depends not merely on the desire of the Communist
Party but on how well they acquit themselves and on whether they enjoy the trust
of the people. Mutual supervision among the various parties is also a
long-established fact, in the sense that they have long been advising and
criticizing each other. Mutual supervision is obviously not a one-sided matter;
it means that the Com-munist Party can exercise supervision over the democratic
parties, and vice versa."
In China many methods
were evolved to prevent capitalist restoration and the rise of a new bourgeoisie
in the Government and Party. Mao’s let a hundred flowers blossom and let a
hundred schools of thought contend; his ‘Three-thirds’ system of
democratic representation which restricts the seats of Communist party members
in all elected bodies to a maximum of one-third of the whole and gives
two-thirds of the seats to members of other parties and non-party elements;
his putting six political criteria for political parties to stand for
elections; etc; are only a few of the examples adopted. Democracy is not
merely a formal putting a vote but must exist in the very living process of any
organisation, with the leadership under the close supervision of the masses and
cadre; this too is possible with only a general raising of MLM consciousness of
the Party and the masses and intensifying the class struggle. In China there
were many parties after the revolution sharing power, but the unity was on a
principled basis, and was part of the front to deepen the class struggle against
the remnants of the feudal and CBB forces. In Nepal they in effect dilute the
class struggle by forming a government with feudal and CBB elements.
The most important
thing is that all the revolutionary bodies in the proletarian or people’s
democratic state are elected and every person so elected is subject to recall
which is not seen in the so-called parliamentary democracies.
PM: Do you find
anything wrong when the CPN(Maoist) says it will go to the new democratic stage
via the bourgeois democratic or multiparty republic?
Azad: No Maoist
would say it is wrong to fight for the demand of a Republic and for the
overthrow of the autocratic monarchy. And likewise, none would oppose the
forging of a united front of all those who are opposed to the main enemy at any
given moment. Needless to say, such a united front would be purely tactical in
nature and cannot, and should not, under any circumstances, determine the path
and direction of the revolution itself.
The problem with the
theorization by the CPN(Maoist) lies in making the fight against autocracy into
a sub-stage of NDR and, a tendency to make the sub-stage overwhelm
(dominate and determine) the very direction and path of the revolution. The
programme and strategy of NDR drawn up by the Party prior to its launching of
the armed struggle, its targets to be overthrown, and even the concrete class
analysis made earlier based on which the revolution had advanced so far, are now
made subordinate to the needs of the so-called sub-stage of Nepalese revolution.
The sub-stage of a bourgeois democratic republic appears, from their interviews
and statements, to have become the all-determining factor.
As far as we know, ,
we can say that the numerous types of state system in the world can be reduced
to three basic kinds according to the class character of their political power:
(1) republics under bourgeois dictatorship {in addition to these there are the
fake republics in the backward semi-feudal, semi-colonial countries under the
joint dictatorship of the CBB and feudal elements, backed by imperialism ); (2)
republics under the dictatorship of the proletariat; and (3) republics under the
joint dictatorship of several revolutionary classes. In essence, the slogan of a
bourgeois democratic republic given by the CPN(Maoist) cannot but come under the
first type of republic in spite of the participation of the revolutionary party
in the state power along with the comprador bourgeois-feudal parties.
In his interview with
the BBC correspondent, comrade Prachanda gave his vision of future Nepal in the
following words:
"We believe that the
Nepali people will go for a republic and in a peaceful way the process of
rebuilding Nepal will go forward.
"In five years’ time
Nepal will move towards being a beautiful, peaceful and progressive nation.
"In five years’ time
the millions of Nepalis will already be moving ahead with a mission to make a
beautiful future, and Nepal will truly start becoming a heaven on earth."
He further asserted
that a democratic republic elected in such a way will solve the problems of
Nepalis!!
"We believe that with
the election of a constituent assembly, a democratic republic will be formed in
Nepal. And this will solve the problems of Nepalis and lead the country into a
more progressive path."
Anyone reading the
above lines would think that these views reflect more a nationalist sentiment
than a proletarian class outlook.
How will Nepal start
becoming a "heaven on earth" after becoming a bourgeois republic? How can
the formation of a democratic republic "solve the problems of Nepalis"?
Can it free itself from the clutches of imperialism after becoming a republic in
the present imperialist era? Does the CPN(Moist), which claims to believe in MLM,
really think that the "process of re-building Nepal will go forward in a
peace-ful way"? And is there a single instance in world history where such
peaceful process of rebuilding has taken place? Does not the history of world
revolution show that bitter class struggle, bloody and violent at times,
continues even after decades following the capture of power by the proletariat?
Then how could comrade Prachanda think of such a peaceful process of rebuilding
Nepal even at this sub-stage?
Do the parties
belonging to the SPA really fight imperialism, Indian expansionism and feudalism
in Nepal? Is there a guarantee that the CPN(Maoist) will defeat the
bourgeois-feudal parties, with which it wants to go for political competition,
in the elections and ensure that Nepal does not drift into the clutches of
imperialism and Indian expansionism? How could one believe that once the
elections to the Constituent Assembly are over and Nepal becomes a Republic, not
under the leader-ship of the working class party but may be under an alliance of
a hotch-potch combina-tion of Parties i.e., an alliance of ruling class and
working class under CPN(Maoist), the country would free itself from feudalism
and imperialism and become a "beautiful, peaceful and progressive nation"
?
According to comrade
Prachanda’s opinion, "the reactionary class and their parties will try to
transform this republic into bourgeois parliamentarian one, where as our party
of the proletariat class will try to transform it into new democratic republic.
How long will be the period of transition, is not a thing that can right now be
ascertained. It is clear that it will depend upon the then national and
international situation and state of power balance."
This so-called
transitional multiparty republic is sought to be transformed into a new
democratic republic through peaceful struggle by means of political competition
with reactionary class and their parties which try to transform it into a
bourgeois parliamentary republic!!
Whatever be the
tactics adopted by the CPN(Maoist) the most objectionable part in the entire
matter is its projection of these tactics as a theoretically developed position
which it thinks should be the model for the revolutions in the 21st
century. In the name of fighting against dogmatism our comrades of CPN(Maoist)
are slipping into dangerous territory.
Moreover, as long as
the Party wages a consistent struggle against imperialism and local
reactionaries and pursues the line of redistribution of land and wealth,
nationali-sation of all comprador, foreign industries, banks and foreign trade,
it is certain to face opposition from the other parliamentary parties. And if it
wants to be part of the par-liamentary game it has to abide by its rules and
cannot carry out its anti-feudal, anti-imperialist policies in a thoroughgoing
way. Even the independence of the judiciary has to be recognised as part of the
game of parliament and can cause obstruction to every reform which the Maoist
party tries to initiate after coming to power through elections. This is already
being seen with the 8 point agreement being said to be illegal. US imperialism
is even strongly demanding that the Maoist should participate in the constituent
assembly only after they lay down their arms. The CPN(Maoists) have rightly
opposed this position of the US and also Indian expansionists. We expect that
they will remain firm in this.
Then there will be
several institutions like the judiciary, the election commission, the media,
various artistic, cultural and even religious bodies, non-government
organi-sations, and also human rights organiza-tions some of which are floated
by the ruling classes, and so on. If one slips into the quagmire of the
so-called multiparty demo-cratic republic, one cannot escape from upholding
these so-called independent institutions. Many of these can become hideouts of
the reactionary forces and work for counter-revolution in diverse subtle ways.
One cannot forget the subtle manner in which the western agencies infiltrated
and subverted the societies in East European countries and even in the former
Soviet Union.
PM: Comrade Prachanda
says that the tactics adopted by his party are based on the specificities of the
political and military balance in the world as well as particular class,
political and power balance in Nepal besides the experiences of the 20th
century. What is your Party’s opinion on this?
Azad: It is true
that comrade Prachanda in his interview to The Hindu last February cited
the above three factors for his party coming to the decision on multiparty
democracy. In fact, this understanding could be seen in the CPN(Maoist) even
before the said interview. For instance, in the CC meeting in August 2004, it
began to be skeptical about the prospects of victory in a small country like
Nepal when it is confronted by imperialism and there is no advancement of any
strong revolutionary movement.
"In the present
context, when along with the restoration of capitalism in China there is no
other socialist state existing, when despite objective condition turning
favorable currently there is no advancement in any strong revolutionary
movement under the leadership of the proletariat, and when world imperialism is
pouncing on people everywhere like an injured tiger, is it possible for a small
country with a specific geo-political compulsion like Nepal to gain victory to
the point of capturing central state through revolution? This is the most
significant question being put before the Party today. The answer to this
question can only be found in Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and on this depends the
future of the Nepalese revolution."
The same Plenum had
also pointed out why the series of tactical steps like cease-fire, negotiation,
political way out etc., were taken up.
"There is no doubt
that the imperialist forces are now in preparation for even more vicious assault
as the Nepalese People’s War is in preparation for strategic offensive from its
current position of strategic equilibrium. The entire complexities,
opportunities and challenges of Nepalese revolution are the manifestations of
this objective condition……But, in Nepal, the develop-ment of revolution has
reached a very sensitive stage of preparation for strategic offensive. It is
essential to understand that the series of tactical steps undertaken by the
Party such as cease-fire, negotiation, political way out etc. are based on this
strategically favorable and tactically unfavorable world situation and the
condition of strategic equilibrium inside the country."
It is true that the
revolutions everywhere are confronting a tough situation especially after the
setback of China. Tactically speaking, in the present-day world, the enemy
forces are quite strong while our subjective forces are weak. World imperialism
has unleashed a massive offensive on the revolutionary forces, national
liberation movements and on the people’s movements everywhere. But this is only
one side of the coin. At the same time, the objective conditions are quite
favourable; imperialism, particularly US imperialism, is hated by the people
everywhere and massive people’s movements are breaking out against imperialism,
particularly US imperialism, throughout the world. Any revolution in today’s
world has to inevitably face the attacks by the imperialists.
To face an enemy much
bigger than the revolutionary forces there is no question that it may and will
require a great flexibility in tactics. Particularly when we are a sizable force
such flexibility can more effectively be wielded for the achievement of our
goals. But while doing so there is always a danger to lose sight of our
strategic tasks of the seizure of power by armed force. From the statements
being made by the CPN(Maoist) leadership it appears that that danger is there.
Many statements being made and the interviews being given tend to negate some of
the basic Marxist understandings regarding state and revolution. It may be said
to have been made in the context of diplomacy; but its end result is to mis-educate
the revolutionary and progressive camp. It is not expected from a Marxist
statesman.
In the interview com
Prachanda had gone to the extent of saying:" We are ready to accept the
people’s verdict, if they chose constitutional monarchy and multiparty
democracy." It is indeed a great tragedy to see the Maoist party finally
ending up in these political positions in spite of having de facto power in most
of the countryside.
PM: Comrade Prachanda
says that the line of multiparty democracy applies to the Maoist movement in
India too. How does your party see this?
Azad: We saw his
comments on this point in his interview with The Hindu correspondent. It
says:
"We believe it
applies to them too. We want to debate this. They have to understand this and go
down this route. Both on the question of leadership and on multiparty democracy,
or rather multiparty competition I believe those who call themselves
revolutionaries in India need to think about these issues. And there is a need
to go in the direction of that practice. We wish to debate with them on this. If
revolutionaries are not going to look at the need for ideological development,
they will not go anywhere."
Such advice has been
coming forth from the various ruling class parliamentary parties in India since
long. The revisionist CPI and CPI(M), who swear by Marx and Lenin, regularly
sermonise through their magazines, documents and statements, regarding the
futility of armed struggle for seizing state power and achieving revolutionary
social transformation. They desperately try to show how parliamentary multiparty
democracy is the best instrument for achieving this transformation as witnessed
in West Bengal and Kerala. The CPI(ML)-Liberation, in the name of MLM, preaches
the virtues of multi-party democracy and calls all those who do not wish to be
tied to the parliamentary pig-sty as anarchists and adventurists.
It is good that the
CPN(Maoist) wants to debate with the Maoists in India on the question of
leadership and multiparty democracy. There have been interesting discussions and
exchange of opinions and experiences between the leaderships of our two parties
on the concept of leadership, on the question of personality cult and
concentration of all power in the hands of one individual, etc. Our opinion has
always been that it is necessary for a good section of the Party leadership to
work among the masses and concentrate on building class struggle even after the
seizure of power in order to prevent the degeneration in the Party
functionaries, officials in the various state departments, particularly the
armed forces, in the various units in the production sphere, and so on. We must
encourage the masses to criticize the mistakes committed by the party and the
party leaders even in the course of the revolutionary movement prior to the
seizure of power. We must develop collective leadership rather than focusing on
any one individual or delegating revolutionary authority. Dependency on one or
few individuals instead of developing collective leadership and involving the
entire Party membership and the masses in decision-making has been one of the
causes that led to great reversals in Russia and China where, after the demise
of outstanding proletarian leaders like Stalin and Mao, the CPSU and the CPC
turned revisionist so easily.
We agree with comrade
Prachanda when he says that "from the lessons of the 20th Century communist
states - we want to move to a new plane in terms of leadership - where one
person doesn’t remain the party leader or the head of state."
In fact, this had
also been one of the major points of debate during the inner-party struggle in
the CPN(Maoist) during 2004-05 when comrade Bhattarai (Laldhoj), in his Basic
Questions for Inner-Party Discussion, raised questions such as: Is
proletarian leadership a centralized expression of collectivity, or is it a
person centered? Does the principal law of dialectics, viz. one divides into
two, apply to the main leadership or not? How does the system of a single person
occupying the top Party, army and the state posts, and that too for life, solve
the question of generating revolutionary successors and of continuous
revolution? Our party, the CPI(Maoist) wish to conduct a serious debate on
these questions and also on the question of Prachanda Path and on the concept of
path, thought and ism.
PM: What would you
say with regard to the concept of 21st century democracy as proposed by the
CPN(Maoist) led by comrade Prachanda?
Azad: What is new
in the concept of 21st century democracy raised by the CPN(Maoist) and how is it
qualitatively different from the democracy of the 20th century? The CPN(Maoist)
had also claimed that its "decision on multi-party democracy is a
strategically, theoretically developed position" which is even applicable to
conditions in India. One knows about bourgeois democracy and proletarian
democracy, that democracy too has a class character, which in a class-divided
society democracy will serve the ruling class while exercising dictatorship over
the rest of the people. In bourgeois republics the nature of democracy is
bourgeois. It is meant to serve the bourgeoisie while oppressing the vast
majority of the people. Its essence is bourgeois dictatorship. Likewise, in
people’s democratic republics, the democracy is meant for all the anti-feudal,
anti-imperialist classes while dictatorship is exercised over the enemies of the
people and their agents. The qualitative difference between different types of
democracies lies in their class character. But when the CPN(Maoist) says that
there is a qualitative difference between the democracy of the 20th and 21st
centuries without any reference to the class character, it is not only
unconvincing but also seems to be highly subjective.
One reason given is
that in the 21st century there has "been unprecedented develop-ment in
science and technology, particu-larly in electronic communication techno-logy,
in the world." How this unpreceden-ted development has a bearing on the
strategy of the revolutions in the 21st century or on the nature of democracy in
the 21st century is not clear.
It says that "in
the field of ideology, the central committee has attempted to draw a strategic
outline of the world revolution based on the analysis of today’s world situation
and mainly the new analysis of globalized imperialism and proletarian movement
and has succeeded to present a totally new concept in relation to leadership and
accomplishing revolution and preventing counter-revolution" and "in the field of
politics" it says, it has made a "qualitative leap in the concept
regarding political and military strategy and tactic established in the 20th
century."
We are still not
clear what is this new concept and qualitative leap claimed by CPN(Maoist)
except for their line of multiparty democracy and political competition which
boils down to competing peacefully with the various reactionary and revisionist
parties for power in a so-called transitional multiparty democratic republic.
PM: Finally, where do
you see the Nepalese revolution heading?
Azad: We also do
see reports that the PLA still maintains its fire-power and alertness. Also
there is reference to the recent upsurge being the February revolution and the
preparations going on for the October revolution. There are also reports of huge
mass mobilization to win over new forces to the side of the revolution,
including in the urban areas. Also the US imperialists and Indian expansionists
(including their stooge, Yechuri) are openly trying to sabotage the alliance
demanding as a prerequisite the laying down of arms by the Maoists. Besides, the
Maoists have stated that they will not give up their arms and will maintain
their own camps. All these are positive trends indicating the readiness of the
Maoists to advance towards the New Democratic Revolution. There is need to
beware from two situations: falling into any traps laid by the ruling classes
and their imperialist and expansionist masters; second to beware of a sudden
coup and massacre of communists as witnessed in Greece, Indonesia, Chile and a
number of other countries. Even a huge mass base in these countries did not stop
such massacres. But we will expect that the CPN(Maoists) will steer the Party
forward and advance the revolution for the seizure of power countrywide.
PM: One last
question. What is the message you would like to give to the revolutionary ranks
of Nepal, India and the rest of the world?
Azad: First we
would seriously request the CPN(Maoist) and its leadership to reconsider some of
its recent positions and learn from the history of past mistakes. The Nepalese
party and people have a great history of struggle and sacrifice. Over 10,000
have lost their lives in the course of the present people’s war. We salute these
heroic martyrs of the Nepalese and world revolution. We are confident that the
great Nepalese people will advance the revolution forward facing the numerous
twists and turns in the movement. There is no doubt that revolution today is no
simple task; the path will be zig-zag.
We also call on the
people of India to lend full support to the Nepalese revolution. But while doing
so it is also the duty of the Indian and world proletariat to render friendly
suggestions to their comrades in Nepal. After all, the interests of the Nepalese
revolution are very much in the interests of world revolution, and more
particularly of its neighbour, the Indian revolution. The revolutionary people
of India are ready for any sacrifice in support of the Nepalese revolution. We
are confident that we will march forward, together, against the obnoxious system
of world imperialism and its local semi-feudal base.
PM: We, on behalf of
the People’s March wish to thank you for the interview on this so crucial issue
in a neighbouring country.
Azad: Thank You
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