Jayant: How do you
face revisionism in your country; particularly the CPN (UML)?
Com. Gaurav:
Revisionism is bourgeois ideology inside the communist movement. It is a
degenerate ideology, which betrays one’s own class and serves the class enemy.
Thus Lenin has described revisionism as more dangerous and injurious for the
working class movement than that of the open enemies. Because the reactionaries
are openly antagonistic, there is little chance for them to hoodwink the working
class. But revisionism kills the movements from inside by using the catchwords
of Marxism, which Lenin calls "killing kindly". Mao very correctly
compares revisionism with a green snake in the grass. Since revisionism is a
weapon in the hands of reaction to sabotage it from inside, and a by-product of
the communist movement, it is bound to appear and injure all communist parties
in general. The Communist Movement in our country and our Party, the CPN
(Maoist) cannot be an exception.
There is a
longstanding history of struggle against revisionism in our country. The Party
was basically on a revolutionary track, for the first 6 years, since its
inception in April 1950. Right after that the leadership of the party was
constantly dominated by various shades of revisionism for decades, albeit the
fact that the overwhelming majority of the cadres was revolutionary. Thus the
history of the Communist Movement of Nepal is full of vigorous line struggle, in
which the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution of China played a profoundly
significant role in the anti-revisionist struggle. Apart from Khruschovite
revisionism, all major trends of revisionism found in the ICM were traced and
fought against in Nepal.
You have asked about
the specific struggle against UML revisionism, which is of paramount importance
for us. The UML is a vicious form of revisionism, which is more pernicious and
deadly than any other forms of revisionism. It has been largely successful in
deceiving the revolutionary masses for a long time, cashing in on the historical
Jhapa Movement of the early ’70s (a movement impacted by Naxalbari…… Editor),
to get votes in the parliament through which it was placed in the reactionary
government. Though the leadership of the UML is an example of betrayal and
heinous degeneration of the historical Jhapa movement, yet it was able to
mislead the masses for many years. The leaders of the UML are so hypocritical
and masters at sophistry, that simultaneously they can play different cards.
They talk about the Jhapa movement on the one hand and advocate the reactionary
system and ‘constitutional monarchy’ on the other; have fraternal relation with
arc-revisionist parties like the Communist Party of China and CPM in India on
the one hand and attend the ICML international conference on the other.
Our Party has been
able to fight and defeat this vicious form of revisionism fighting in both the
fronts: exposing them through the highest form of class struggle, i.e. the
People’s War (PEOPLE’S WAR) and also through constant and effective ideological
and political debate. The UML is now a strange mixture of various shades of
opportunism and revisionism moreover exposed and isolated from the revolutionary
masses.
Jayant: You have
given the call for a directly elected Constitutional Assembly. So you keep the
option open to get elected to such a Constitutional Assembly. Then how will you
tackle the revisionist forces in such an Assembly?
Gaurav: At the
concrete situation of the development of the people’s war in Nepal, we have put
forward three interrelated and unified demands of ‘round table conference,
interim government and constitutional assembly’. Our Party thinks that the
declaration of cease-fire and the process of negotiation and subsequently these
three inter connected demands are manifestations of the ‘Strategic
Equilibrium’ stage of on going people’s war of our country. The tactics of
cease-fire and negotiation has become necessary for both the warring forces, the
regime and us, because it was not possible for both sides to defeat the other
side only through military actions. This demand has to be considered in the
context of this situation.
As far as the
constitutional assembly is concerned, it is sure to be formed through the
election. But how will the election take place? Who will be responsible to hold
the election? In our concept, the interim government should be formed after the
abrogation of the existing constitution and dissolution of the present army,
which is not the national army but the army of the palace. The constitutional
assembly will be convoked only after fulfilling the above-mentioned two tasks.
This point should have to be clear. If the election of the constitutional
assembly were speculated to be held by the existing government under the present
constitutions, it would be misleading and a betrayal. When the above two demands
will be fulfilled before holding the election to the constitutional assembly,
our party will participate in the election and we have confidence that the
conscious Nepalese masses will elect the genuine representatives and a
republican constitution will be promulgated. There is every reason to believe
that it will not be a bourgeois republic like India or the US; it will be a
People’s Republic.
So far as dealing
with the revisionist forces is concerned, first of all they are against this
proposal. They are in favour of making only some reforms on some of the clauses
through the parliament. The question comes, if they will support and follow up
the process, then what. Those who are struggling to fulfill these slogans, they
will participate in this process. It is up to the Nepalese people as to how they
will deal with them during the election. But we will not disband them and not
declare that they will not be eligible for participating in this election. They
will expose themselves among the masses.
Jayant: Do you
consider a multi Party System in the people’s democratic Nepal?
Gaurav: Its
answer is both yes and no. When the People’s Democratic Nepal will be
established the forces and personalities fighting against imperialism and
feudalism will be represented in the new state. The new constitution will be
promulgated in which the fundamental rights of the people should be guaranteed,
in which people will have the right to elect and to be elected. The people will
have rights to choose their representatives of their choice. In such elections
all the anti-imperialist and anti-feudal forces, apart from the communist party,
can also participate on the banner of their parties, can be elected, and be
chosen in the government. Thus there are also other parties besides the
communist party. In this respect, multi-party, ‘yes’. But the reactionary
parties who are working for imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat and comprador
capitalism will not be legitimated and the right to elect and be elected will
not be provided to them. So the new democratic republic cannot be equated with
the old bourgeois ‘multi-party’ and thus ‘no’ in this aspect. It is essential to
clarify that the New Democratic Republic is not a one party system — other
anti-imperialist and anti-feudal parties and organizations will be legitimate
and recognised by the state.
Jayant: Do you think
armed struggle should be carried on after the replacement of the Royal power
after the coming up of an interim government or after the dialogue?
Gaurav: It is
difficult to answer this question in black and white. It will depend on the
development of the over all situation including the role of the counter part. It
will also depend on the world situation and balance of power. So far as our
Party is concerned, we like no more blood shed. We like the confronting problems
to be solved without further bloodshed. But what we wish does not decide
everything. While going to the dialogue we have made it clear, and the Chairman
of our Party, Com. Prachanda, has repeatedly made it clear through statements,
that when the situation compels us we are ready at anytime to raise arms even
more effectively than before. Thus our future course of action will be decided
according to the concrete development of the situation, whether it will be
without raising arms or with arms. Only an interim government is not our demand.
It is obvious to our Party, our People’s Liberation Army, all our mass
organizations, and the broad masses that we are ready to raise arms more
effectively than before when the situation will demand. We are determined not to
surrender our arms that have been achieved at the cost of blood, without the
aims of the war being achieved. We will never go against the interest and will
of the masses, who are the real makers of history. Now we are in the process of
negotiating with the regime for the sake of bringing out an advanced way out of
the present crisis of the country. But we will not conceal our line from our
friends and the people.
Jayant: After
the World War II, the Communist Party of France shed arms and joined the
parliamentary process. Do you not think there are possibilities for the
derailment of the Armed struggle in the new situation?
Gaurav: So far
the possibility of derailing the revolution and joining the rotten parliament is
concerned, that is always there and every Maoist party should always be alert to
fight it out and reduce the damage to be caused by this revisionist trend.
Jayant: Which
specific measures have you thought out to positively check your Party’s sliding
into the morass of revisionism?
Gaurav: Well,
there is no such immediate danger or possibility of revisionism emerging inside
our Party. But we should have to be always alert and vigilant against any kind
of opportunism, among which right opportunism is more dangerous. As already been
discussed, revisionism is always pernicious and dangerous for the communist
movement. The important point is that there is an objective ground for the
emergence of revisionism in our society dominated by the petit bourgeois classes
and thus alertness and awareness against revisionism is always necessary.
Regarding the
measures to check revisionism, we are constantly taking up some measures. First,
it is necessary to understand that revisionism is not merely a concern of the
communist parties, but it is a concern of the whole society. Therefore, in order
to prevent the emergence of revisionism, it is necessary to mobilise the whole
masses against it for which awareness of the masses is very important. Thus our
Party carries out massive propaganda and debating campaigns against revisionism
to educate the masses. Second, revisionism cannot be exposed among the masses
only through propaganda. It should be thoroughly exposed in the field of class
struggle. It is the great people’s war, which has exposed the most pernicious
revisionism of the UML in our country. Fight against the UML and other forms of
revisionism is itself a measure of preventing revisionism in our own Party.
Third, participating in the international debates against revisionism and all
sorts of opportunist trends is important as well. We have experienced in the ICM
that Parties like those in Vietnam and North Korea, who tried to keep themselves
aside in the great debate contributed subsequently to turn to revisionism.
Active participation in the international centre of Maoist parties is important.
Any trend of making compromises with the wrong trends in the ICM ultimately
breeds and paves the way for opportunist and revisionist trends in the communist
movement of the individual country. Our Party and communist movement in our
country have been benefited in fighting out opportunism and revisionism by our
participation in Revolutionary Internationalist Movement (RIM). Fourth, besides
this regular education, exposure and fight against revisionism, our Party
carries out rectification campaigns and political training inside the Party.
Jayant: Economism is
one of the causes of revisionism. How do you mobilize the people to fight
against economism?
Gaurav: Yes,
economism is one of the causes of revisionism. In order to prevent revisionism
it is necessary to fight against economism, which appears in different forms at
different periods of time. When economic questions are given more importance
than the ideological and political questions there is every chance of it
breeding and growing economism. Economism manifests in various forms including
the "left" form. To fight out economism, the communist party should have to put
politics and ideology always in command. When ideology and politics lose command
and economic struggles get prominence; it prepares ground for breeding economism.
In our country, there
is a tradition in the movement of bringing the ideological and political issues
to the forefront, rather than economic issues. Economic issues hardly become
more dominant than the political issues, in the political movement of our
country. Thus, historically, economism has not been the main danger in our
country. But there is objective ground for that; economism can manifest in
different forms and thus awareness and alertness is necessary.
Economism becomes
rather a big problem when it penetrates within the Maoist movement. The forms of
economism to be found in opportunist and Maoist parties are different. For the
opportunists and revisionists economic struggle is the only form of struggle,
which is decisive for them. It is problem for the Maoist parties waging or
preparing for armed struggle. In such parties economism can be manifested in the
form of militant economism or armed economism. It can be manifested in the form
of seizure and distribution of land should be the main aim of the armed
struggle, which can attract broad sections of the masses in favour of the armed
struggle. This line pulls back the party from the central task. Capturing the
state power is the central task of every revolution. If the revolutionary
parties deviate from this central task and engage themselves in capturing and
distribution of land, it can lead to militant economism. Economism can also
appear during the people’s war; the question is whether the main stress should
be given to consolidating guerilla zones and base areas including economic
aspects, or to developing the whole war to a higher level and to spread it
widely. The principal aspect should be developing the whole war to a higher
level with the aim of seizure of countrywide power. It is also important to
grasp and popularise in the entire party and the masses how world revolution is
important and how the revolution of one country is a part of the world
revolution.
In order to fight
against economism it is necessary to educate the masses that ideological and
political issues and struggles are more important than the economic issues and
struggles, otherwise there is danger of economism rising, especially in a
section of the people who are politically backward. This idea can be manifested
also in the Party. This can be overcome by mobilizing the people overwhelmingly
in political issues and waging political struggles and people’s war.
March 25, 2003
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