PM : When was the Gram Rajya Committee formed in
your village ?
G : It was
established in December ’98.
PM : What then existed before that ?
G : All the
mass organisations existed — i.e., DAKMS, KAMS, Bala Sanghatana. Also we had
formed a cooperative society (Sahakar Sanghatana) in the village.
PM : What is the composition of your committee ?
G: We are
five members — one from the DAKMS (peasant organisation), one from the KAMS
(women’s organisation) one from the cooperative society and one representative
of the rich peasantry, plus myself. There is a rule, as part of the UF policy,
to keep a rich peasant representative in the committee. Of the other four two
are from middle peasant background and two from poor peasant background.
PM : I believe the GRCs also have some
sub-committees. Do these exist here ?
G : Yes, as
in most areas, we have two sub-committees — a Vikas (development) Committee and
a school-hospital committee. Each have three members,with a GRC member taking
responsibility for each and acting as its chairman.
PM : How was your GRC formed ?
G : Once
the party decided that a GRC could function in our village, the issue was
discussed at length in our cell meeting. Possible representatives in the
committee were also considered. Then one day when the squad came to our village
and the party SAC (Squad Area Committee) members were present a meeting of the
entire village was called. Any relatives etc., present in the village were not
allowed to attend. As the GRC is secret it is only know to the local villagers
(if there are any suspicious elements in the village they too are not allowed to
attend). Children too are not allowed to attend as anyhow they cannot vote. Then
SAC members and myself explained the concept of the GRC as the new organs of
power and how it differed from the earlier mass organisations. Then the
villagers were asked to suggest names of individuals to the committee after
explaining the criteria. The names suggested were mostly those thought of by the
cell. Finally, all five were elected by a show of hands. All the five then took
a pledge to work for the poor and against the existing system.
PM : What is the nature of your functioning ?
G: The
committee meets every 15 days as per the rule. At these meetings, we discuss all
issues from development works to settlement of disputes to the question of
election boycott. And plans are made. Those that are to be taken up by the
sub-committees are allocated to them and they work out the details. Also, when
important decisions are to be taken, a general meeting of villagers is called.
So far one Grama Sabha has been called to review our functioning. There were no
complaints against any committee member.
PM : What is the type of work you have undertaken
so far ?
G : The GRC
is relatively new. We have now more systematically taken up the development work
already initiated earlier. Besides, we have again this year taken the lead in
organising the villagers into mutual aid teams for agricultural work.
PM : What is the type of development work
continuing under the GRC ? What happened earlier?
G : First
we have constructed a water tank through our own cooperative labour. A little
work still remains — the pipe and cement work has to be built for release of
water. We will complete it after the present agricultural season is over. This
year we have distributed plots in the area below the tank to all villagers so
that they can take out two crops on the land. We have had to clear part of the
forest for this. The poor peasants were given more land.
Three years back we planted an orchard of guava and
mango plants. About 80 plants survive. Once the fruits come we will distribute
half amongst the villagers and sell the other half.
Last year we also did some cooperative farming of
vegetables. We sold half the crop, earning some Rs. 300, and distributed the
rest.
Since the last two years some 10 families have been
preparing compost pits with cow-dung, twigs, leaves etc., This is collected
throughout the year and then put on the land. There is much resistance to
adopting new agricultural techniques. Though the party has been continuously
propagating about these compost pits, transplanting of rice, weeding, etc., till
now, in the village only three houses do transplanting and none do weeding.
PM : Why this resistance ?
G : Land
here is abundant, it is easier to cut some forest and throw some seeds and take
out a crop, however limited.
PM : Then do you not accept the party’s policy to
stop cutting the forest ?
G : Forest
is necessary too, but the poor peasants also need more land. Most villagers here
produce about 15 quintal (1500 kg) of paddy (Dhan) which is not enough for the
full year. The balance has to be made up by selling mahua fruit (gathered in the
forests in summer). They also work for 15 days to one month on the chilli farms
in AP (across the border). This gives them some Rs. 300 to Rs. 400 plus chillis
for the whole year. Ofcourse, better agricultural methods will give sufficient
produce for all, but people are not ready to adopt it. (I later discovered from
the DVC, that part of the problem was the lack of a labour force to do proper
farming, which could be solved by more cooperative effort. Also leveling of the
land etc., required cooperative effort)
PM : What was the land situation before the entry
of the squad ?
G : Most
had no land at all. To do even a small plot of forest land, the forest officials
would harass us and we would have to bribe them with chicken, goats, liquor,
etc. The patel of the village also accumulated a lot of land on non-payment of
debts. After the entry of the squads/party all of us have got land. 10 acres of
the patel’s lands were distributed to the poor peasants. Now in the village
there are three rich peasants, and all support us. While digging the water tank
two of us, including myself lost part of our land. But we willingly gave it for
the common good, and we also have sufficient land.
PM : What other development activity was undertaken
?
G : The
party began a school where 25 children registered. A teacher came from another
village. It ran very well for year — and they even won a prize in a inter-region
kabaddi tournament. But then the teacher died, and we have not been able to find
another educated person in this area.
PM : Anything else ?
G : The
sub-committee is running a medical centre. The two members of the sub-committee
were trained by the squad in basic medicine. Then 8 to 10 basic drugs were
purchased. For this Rs. 300 was taken from the cooperative fund (got through the
sale of vegetables) and Rs. 300 was given by the party. It is functioning
slowly, as people’s faith in the ‘vadde’ (witch-doctor) is not easy to break.
People pay the cost price for the medicine. The medicines cover most of the
routine diseases in our village.
PM : What is the difference between the GRC and the
earlier Gram Panchayat ?
G : The
Gram panchayat which existed for decades did nothing for the people. While the
GRC is an organ of power of the poor people to suppress the rulers and village
gentry and to conduct development activity for the masses.
PM : What is the difference in your village, then
and now — i.e., under Gram Panchayat rule and under GRC rule ?
G : Under
the earlier system, there was no security of life. Most people had no land. The
zamindars, patels etc., took over people’s land. The patels and sarpanch (of
Gram Panchayat) were the worst exploiters, looting the people through the
‘panch’ (justice system) — they even killed people who opposed them, with their
bow and arrow. Then the forest officials were a terror, beating people,
extracting money, arresting them etc. Now all this has stopped. We have our own
land. We run our own lives.
PM : It is rumoured that the masses assist the PW
out of fear of the gun ?
G : Who
will work under threats ? The support is due to the approach of the party, that
supports the poorer classes against the rich. So the poor support it, the
landlords, officials, sarpanch, etc., oppose it.
PM : Then why is the gun needed ?
G : Will
the enemy listen to you without it ? By mere talking none of these powerful
people will listen to you. Even earlier it was the bow and arrow that decided.
We cannot win a new ‘Raj’ without the gun.
PM : What happens if the police comes to terrorise
you ?
G : We will
tell them to leave us alone as they have never done anything for us. If they
don’t listen we will fight.
PM : Finally in the last election campaign (Lok
Sabha, 1999) what did you do ? How many voted ?
G :
The GRC held a meeting in the village to boycott the elections. Not a single
person voted from this village, not even the patel.
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