PM : What was life in your village before the
arrival of the squads ?
V : Like
most others from this part of South Bastar our family are first generation
migrants from Dantewada region. This was virtually virgin forest, while in
Dantewada there was scarcity of land. We migrated here when I was a child in
about 1972. In our village there was a violent clash with our relatives over
land. They killed my uncle and also tried to kill my father and brother. We
walked four days and nights to reach this spot. At that time there were only
three other households in this village, living in this dense jungle.
We cut the forest and did some agriculture but wild
animals ate up most of the crop. Till 1980 we subsisted mostly on forest
produce, eating mahua, leaves, etc., and hunting with the bow and arrow. If we
fell sick we went to the local vadde (witch doctor). There was a lot of malaria.
If we needed any item like salt, chilli, tobacco etc., we had to walk 25 kms.
The government was totally absent. Then, as our village numbers grew the forest
officials, sarpanch, village patels only terrorised us and extracted chicken,
goats, liquor etc. Though we have 20 acres we could barely meet our needs even
when conditions improved in 1983 with the arrival of the People’s War squads.
PM : How did the squads enter your village ?
V : In
1983/84 word spread that a ‘Jungle Military’ was roaming the area. There were
two types of rumours — one that they beat forest officials, patwaris etc;
second, that they take away young girls from the village. The latter, we found
out later, was spread by the landlords, patels, officials etc. Yet, no one in
our village had ever seen them.
Then, that summer, some 300 villagers had gone
hunting, some 50 kms away from our village. Suddenly, one night we saw a torch
light. It was the ‘Jungle Military’. On seeing us, they (7 to 8 men and one
woman) held a meeting explaining how it was necessary to fight the officials.
They spoke mostly Telugu and broken Gondi. They were dressed in uniforms like
the police, but the difference was their clothes were torn and dirty. (The
squads had just entered Bastar from AP around this time — correspondent)
PM : When did you finally get in touch with the
squads?
V : One
month later they came to a neighbouring village. We went to see them. They shook
hands with all of us and said Lal Salaam (Red Salute). They held a meeting, sang
songs, danced etc. They said that they would eat anything the villagers would
give. Later they came to our village; they ate anything we gave them. While on
the one hand we gained confidence, on the other a massive propaganda was there
that they take away young girls. The local sarpanch/landlord also got his
daughter married off, to prove the point. In 1985/86 the propaganda reached a
peak saying that they cut off people’s heads and carry it in their kit-bags.
People were all told not to give food, and if possible, poison the food and kill
them all. The situation continued to be fluid. It took until 1987 before the
squads really established themselves in the area.
PM : Buy how was this propaganda countered ?
V: Firstly,
we never saw any girls supposedly taken away by them. Secondly, they were
completely open, and their kit-bags did not appear to have any heads in them.
Then they thoroughly beat a landlord who was instigating much of this
propaganda. Besides, I was facing enormous harassment by the forest officials
and local patel, for building a house. They threatened to beat and arrest me if
I did not give Rs. 2,000; they would come and abuse; all in the village
capitulated and asked me to give the money. Then one day the squad thoroughly
beat up these forest officials, who never came back. With such incidents they
won over our confidence. Then the police began coming and asked us to go hunting
with them, deep into the forests. Later we were told their intention was to find
the ‘Naxalites’, so we stopped cooperating.
PM : When did you begin to support this movement?
V : In 1987
two youth from a neighbouring village joined the squad. This gave many of the
youth in our area more confidence. It is then that, two of us also decided to
join. By then I had already married and had one child. Also I had started a
small shop in the village with a friend (which never really ran well). After
roaming one month with the squad, when I visited the village, my mother cried,
and relatives put a lot of pressure. Also the squad life was quite tough. I told
the commander that I will return to the village. They then gave me the
responsibility of building DAKMS in the area. I became the president of the
local unit. But then, in the terror campaign of 1989, eight of us were arrested
from the village. I was severely beaten in the lock-up, and then sent to
Jagdalpur jail. I was there eight months before being released on bail. It was
here that I got my first lesson and learnt the Hindi alphabet and how to count.
On coming out, I became more active and a Range Committee member of the DAKMS.
By the end of the year I was recruited to a candidate cell of the party in my
area. But as police repression increased, in May 1990 I joined the squad. Since
then I have been continuously in the squad.
PM : But what about your family ?
V : When I
came out of jail my second child died, as I could not give it attention.
Everyone opposed my joining the squad. Even villagers opposed saying that the
peasant organisation would weaken if I joined the squad. Initially my wife
opposed, but now even she has joined the squad in 1996 leaving the child with
relatives. At present the child is very hostile to both of us as she feels we
have deserted her. This was in the earlier period, when there was more
opposition to joining the squads. Today it is different.
PM : What is the difference in the life of your
village after the squads came ?
V : First,
they have given us youth a sense of purpose in life and a future. Otherwise it
was all darkness, like living in muck without any future. When we were small we
dreamt of learning and getting a job as a policeman (that was the only job
visible to us). But I could not even go to school. I have learnt now upto the
5th Standard in Hindi and Telugu, within the squad.
After the arrival of the squad, all have got land;
the rates of Tendu leaf-picking has been increased; the loot and atrocities of
the forest officials, the patwari, the sarpanch, the village patel,etc., has
come to an end; killings on flimsy pretext has stopped; violent clashes between
villages over land have been settled; forced marriages have been stopped and
other forms of women’s oppression reduced; modern medicine has been introduced
and superstition has been reduced and now even development works have begun,
which the government has never undertaken till today.
PM : But what made you join the squad ?
V : Over
the years, through the DAKMS conferences and study camps I understood the nature
of oppression in society; and that we can build a better society and gain
equality only by wielding the gun. Then, just prior to entering the squad I
attend the huge one million peasant rally at Warangal. There, we even put on a
dance from Bastar. I saw a vast movement developing.
PM : How has life in the squad been like ?
V : I have
spent a lot of effort in learning — not only to read and write, but also general
knowledge and Marxism. I was made a full party member soon after entering the
squad. In 1993 I was made a member of the party SAC (Squad Area Committee) with
responsibilities for DAKMS and the GRD. In 1994 I became a deputy commander, and
in 1995 commander of an LGS. In January ’98 I was made a CGS commander and also
the SAC secretary.
Specifically after joining the SAC, I got a lot of
organisational experience and knowledge. As a deputy commander, I got experience
of military responsibilities of the squad — to organise sentry duties and
drills, to lead the pilot and assault batch, etc. Also I have participated in
many ambushes and raids which has given me a greater military sense. After
becoming an LGS commander it was no doubt difficult taking up all
responsibilities, but we have to slowly learn. Now as CGS commander there are
even more responsibilities. Now it is even difficult to get time for my own
studies. But, somehow time has to be found.
PM : You say you had responsibility for building
the GRDs — village defence squads — what is your experience ?
V : The GRD
is set up with militants from the village who have been working in DAKMS. Their
responsibility is restricted to the village. They use local weapons like the bow
and arrow, and barmar (muzzle-loader) and we give them training in the use of
dynamite, claymore mines etc., which they also use. They are also trained in use
of weapons, military drill etc., in military camps. Here they get the rudiments
of military training.
One important responsibility is to find out the
informers and take the necessary action. This they have done in a number of
places. During bandh calls they dig up roads and blow up bridges. During the
bamboo and tendu-leaf struggles they have burnt down depots. They have
confiscated trucks of contractors who try and steal forest wood. They have also
attempted ambushes on small police parties. They also assist the squads and help
in sentry duties.
PM : How do you look at this war ? Do you think we
will win ?
V : No
doubt it will develop slowly, but we will win. I have joined only with the
confidence of one-day winning. Besides, in village life there is no future for
the youth. Here there is a cause. The youth, like me, come to the squad with the
idea of serving the people. And in the process, even if we lose our life, it
does not matter.
PM : So, you are quite happy here ?
V : Yes
very happy .... imagine our lives today, if the squads had never come !
PM : Even though your little girl is very angry
with you ?
V :
That is a small sacrifice for a big
cause. Many have already given their lives. Besides, unlike us, she is getting
educated. Once she grows up, she will hopefully realise the truth and follow in
her mother’s footsteps.
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